The Ridglan 47: From Historic Beagle Rescue to Felony Charges

0:00) We have dogs though. We have dogs. Wow.

Dogs are coming out. Dogs are coming out of that facility. This is extraordinary. You're watching it live.

You can't really tell you what's happening because your guess is as good as mine. It's in Wisconsin live. There's a whole bunch of activists. You can see.

Wow. There they are. Hey, see a dog. Multiple dogs.

There are the beagles. We just saw them. There are the beagles. I know.

6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 dogs at least. I think there's more. Wow. Look at that.

These are animal activists who went into Ridgeland Farms. You are watching animal rights history in action. A mass animal rights action in progress. Look at that beagle.

Look at that beagle being rescued. Look at that beagle. That was the scene on March 15th, 2026 in Blue Mounds Wisconsin at the Ridgeland Beagle breeding facility. And as a result of that, 22 dogs were rescued.

However, now 51 individuals are all told are facing, somebody added it up and says 711 years in prison. Today is the big preliminary hearing for 47 of the defendants. You are looking at an image from outside court right now. They're getting ready to hold a news conference.

We are live in Wisconsin. And of course, those watching already sending laws love from the United Kingdom. Let's go. You are all heroes.

So what essentially these folks are saying is they're not felons. They are heroes. So let's see if we can quickly go out. Jamie, can you hear us?

Yes, I can hear you. Okay, what's happening? So everybody's gathering here on the steps of the courthouse. The Dane County Courthouse.

I think they're about to get started with some speakers. And I understand Wayne Shung, who I believe lives in England right now, came all the way from England to be here. Yep. Yeah, we have Wayne tongue here.

We have Alexandra Paul. Excellent. And both of them are going to be speaking any second. So we're excited to hear what they have to say.

They're going to be talking any second. Let's go to our legal analyst for a moment while they're getting ready to start. Tamara Bennett. Essentially, the big argument is it's not theft.

It's rescue. Can you outline what that means? Sure. Thank you for having me.

Yeah. Um, the perspective of the defendants of the 47 people who are going to be in pretrial hearing today is that these are sentient individuals who were rescued and that theft has nothing to do with this, that this is not a felony, that that's completely inappropriate because it it minimizes and deletes that the idea of who dogs are and who they are to us. So again, you know, as we've seen with previous trials and previous open rescues, the overarching modus operandi, the the idea in the mind of these defendants is that they are rescuing individuals in immediate harm's way.

Well, why is it that the government just considers what you're looking at here? And by the way, we don't know that every person who was in there that whose face you see is being charged. It's it's very all over the map. I've been trying to figure out what criteria they use for charging people.

Somebody said, Oh, drivers licenses that they saw at the scene. But in any case, what's the criteria of the government uses? Uh, are they saying that these animals are mere property? Yeah, exactly.

So it hinges on whether these dogs are property or whether they are sentient individuals. That's ultimately what this hinges on. And I suspect that going forward, that that will be part of the defense argument that these are not property but individuals and it looks like they're getting. They're taking a photo or they're getting ready.

They're outside the Dane County courthouse. There's a Alexandra Paul. We're gonna open this up and see what she has to say. Um, they're getting ready to speak.

Alexandra Paul, of course, is the famous actress, most notably for Baywatch. But she's done hundreds of movies and TV shows. And it looks like she's getting ready to speak right now. So we're gonna listen in and hear what Alexandra Paul has to say.

Thank you all for being here. Welcome to the preliminary series of the year 47. There's 51. There's so many numbers.

I'm gonna be here at sea for the next 30 minutes. And I'm really excited to introduce a really wonderful list of inspirational speakers. My name is Alexandra Paul and I am one of the various representatives. And I'm here for a preliminary review of a couple of other preliminary reviews.

It's when the prosecutor has to conclude that there is not an evidence to be just described. So let me make it easy for you, Mr. Prosecutor. I want to say congratulations to you all.

I want to say congratulations to you all. Congratulations to you and great applause. And we need a little APO to connect our business. The only thing I regret is that I didn't name you a dog shop that day.

So, Mr. Prossivier, I want to go to trial. I want to go to trial to expose the cruelty that the owners of Richland Farms have perpetrated on thousands and thousands of dogs over many, many years. Mr.

Prossivier, I want to go to trial so that I can expose the sheriff and the DA who are supposed to uphold this constant animal cruelty laws and who did not eat their dog. I also want to resolve the animal organization and animal agencies that didn't protect the animals. They didn't do their jobs either. They all knew what was happening at Richland Farms and if they did, not then crease it.

And so, Mr. Prossivier, he's taking his trials to determine if he can do their job and to discover who the real criminal is. The people who are supposed to protect the dog is still eating their dog. And that's quite what they said.

And we're very proud to be here today. So, I'm going to first speak to the first person that our speaker said and is specific to Dorsey. She is a University of Wisconsin data science professor who is also an expert in non-animal research methods. Thank you so much for being here.

And today, I'm a professor of data science here at UW-Madison. I've been on faculty for over 25 years, although today I'm speaking as an individual, not on behalf of the University. I am here to convey my deep gratitude and my unwavering support for each and every one of the Richland residents. Without their courage, Richland would still be open and the abuse of countless dogs would still be going on, all under the name of science.

Now, Richland is long indeed that it was applied to the particular facility without more necessary to advance biomedical research and with necessary to advance good science. And that's just patent defaults. Performing surgeries on dogs without anesthesia or post-op pain relief, that's not good science. And having people who are not properly trained perform surgery on dogs, that's not good science.

And having dogs and living conditions that compromise their health, their well-being, their immune systems, their microbiomes, that's not good science. In fact, it's not science at all. It's criminal animal abuse. Richland was here today.

Richland never faced criminal charges. A day from Judge Rhonda Lampert found probable cause of hundreds of counts of criminal animal abuse. And she appointed a special prosecutor to investigate and what happened. She never set foot on mental illness.

When the population passed away, they didn't offer license to pay for sale. And they never faced criminal charges. Richland's veterinarian, the Wisconsin veterinary examining board found him guilty of professional misconduct. And again, noted, hundreds of counts of criminal animal abuse that happened under his watch.

He never faced criminal charges. Yet, here we are today, these are rescuers who have been working one day for a month, a year after a year, to expose the abuse of criminal operation and expect the authorities to act. We have to remember, the rescue didn't start in March. It started years prior, almost a decade prior.

With rescuers working within the system to raise awareness about the abuse of criminal operation and to get the authorities to act. Now, they are the ones facing criminal charges. It just doesn't make sense. For example, when you consider the lack of urgency, the rescuers have been over so many years.

So, there's something wrong with the violence here, and I hope that as a certain system becomes more clear, the charges against the rescuers are dropped. And they are commended for bringing attention to the abuses going on at Richland, for helping to end the criminal abuse here, for including science, and for building the efforts that ultimately led to Richland's proposal. Thank you. So, he has spoken at the last time in a period of courthouse.

Our next speaker is Austin Hallard. He's a musical director from Texas. He's also an avid runner, but he did not run through the cops at Richland Farms on March 15. He was arrested both, and now the next going to work today, thank you, Austin.

Thank you. My name is Austin Hallard, and I'm so honored to stand here today with my fellow defendants in this case. Here's what I saw inside Richland Farms, on that icy cold morning back in March. Row after row, the people sat in tiny milk gates, the dogs crying out in a wall at the parking.

An overwhelming smell of ammonia and feces. I mean, we all looked out the side of them 24 hours a day. But in the last few years, we were not the only people who were horrified by the murder of a police officer. After I was told I was under arrest, I was sitting in the back of a police car as the officer would take my increase.

She asked for my name, and I gave it, and she turned away and paused. She asked for my address, and I gave it, and she turned away and paused again. The person that I wasn't sure why, but when she turned back to me, I saw tears, and willow in her eyes. The officer told me she had been called in and I'm running from the other side of the county, and she hadn't known anything about Richland Farms.

The officer said, as tears filled her eyes, that she had dogs herself, and she had gotten a look at the inside of Richland Farms, and she just couldn't imagine how anyone could see dogs that way. I told her I couldn't imagine that. So today, as many of you know, she was turning the streets into processing animal in rescue rather than an animal in abuse. We're asking the DA to listen not only to people across the continent and across the country, who through years had called her name to all Richland Farms around the world.

Listen not only to the many county guys along the way. He said that he recently couldn't prosecute or release any parts of any prison. Listen not only to a county's local congressman Mark Logan, who said that last week, on the very step forward we stand today, he called for justice both for the people and for those who have seen off the street. Listen not only to the Muslim voters.

Listen not only to the animal welfare experts. Listen not only to the Wisconsin Department of Agriculture that found Richland violated animal welfare laws. Listen also to what a police officer told me that morning when she lives inside Richland Farms. The first time that she couldn't imagine how anyone could see dogs that way.

So here's our message today to the district attorney. Prosecute the abuse that made her cry. And also rescuers who stepped up to stop it. I want to now introduce another Richland defendant, Emily Anderson.

She's from Wisconsin. She works in an animal shelter. And I really want to recommend her very inspiring, so-called community-led emails. She cares so much about the dogs.

She can find her at edilybaronic.com on Instagram. And at edilybaronic.com on Facebook. I have been in animal rescue in Wisconsin for more than 26 years. I had seen the worst of the worst.

But it wasn't until 2017 that I knew about Richland Farms and what was happening there. And I had never seen anything more heartbreaking than what was going on in those three farms. Thousands of dogs trapped in window sheds, in tiny cages, spinning in circles, crying out for help. No sunlight, no toys, no access to the outdoors.

Then it's weird that they were subjected to surgeries without pain medication and anesthesia. It broke my heart. In 2017, I started an online position to ask the government to investigate Richland Farms. And then I waited.

I waited as other people in organizations. We repeatedly asked the government to investigate Richland Farms. And then he waited as the Wisconsin Department of Adderables and Dairy and Consumer Protection sent 494 donations of animal welfare to the Dade County District Insurance Office, asking them to prosecute Richland Farms. And then he waited as the Wisconsin Veterinary Examining Board invoked an emergency succession of Richland City Veterinary and Dr.

Richard Van Domelen last year, fighting multiple counts of veterinary misconduct. And then he waited as Dade County Judge Rhonda Lanford, thank you, appointed as social prosecutor to investigate Richland Farms. And that took him nine months during which he never visited Richland Farms. And then as you all know, he made an agreement with them to renew their training license in exchange for not being prosecuted criminally.

So in his agreement, he launched many of the 2,000 U.S. dogs that were still intact in those tiny cages, crying out. He left those victims and reduced them to 10 users. And how does he feel that was your dog?

He waited, and the dogs waited. And they were crying out for help from someone who had come to help them for years and years. And we couldn't stand by any longer without a crockering to continue. And I think all of us here would agree that we as communities protect what is vulnerable among us, including children and animals, so they can't speak up for themselves and protect themselves.

And they need to be protected by the community if the authorities won't protect them and ordinary people like us still. And all of you here today, you know, in America, we need the people. When we see something that's wrong, when we see something that's against the law, that an authority has done nothing for years to rectify it, then we have the right to speak out, stand up, and state action.

So thank all of you here for being along, supporting us on the right side of history. We're not waiting anymore, are we, Emily? Our next speaker is Dean Guzman-Worsakowski. He's one of the first defendants to go on trial in January of next year.

He has organized the old commercial and personal delivery reforms, and he also has a very social media presence. You can find him on Dean Guzman-Worsakowski. You know, I haven't talked to him about how to spell that. On Facebook and Instagram, he's also the author on a sub-stack of the urban animal.

Come on up, Dean. I want to talk about the broader significance of this case, and why, to me, it is so important that we continue speaking up and forward and take this case to trial. Richland abused thousands of dogs criminally for years in the dark, but they were not the only facility that was doing that. And they are not the only facility that continues to do that.

There is still a facility in upstate New York called Marshall Bible Resources. It is also an eagle breeder for experimentation, and they have not just 1,000 beagles, not 2,000 beagles. They have 16,000 beagles being bred right now in those cages for experience. And what's happening to them is horrific.

According to a recently filed criminal complaint by a federal prosecutor, there are dogs at Marshall who are being injected with toxic chemicals into their happiness. And in the words of a whistleblower court, are effectively being burned alive from the inside, as they are thrashing and screaming for up to 10 minutes in agony before they are killed. This is illegal under New York State law, as it is around the country.

And these dogs are being criminal abused because these employees are doing so without veterinary licenses, without supervision, and for the purpose of convenience. This is not science. This is illegal abuse where these dogs are being injected for convenience because these employees are untrained to find the veins that would properly allow them to be killed without pain. So this is the abuse that is standard in the beetle experimentation industry and in the beetle breeding industry, not for science, as Christina has mentioned, this is not science.

This is straight up abuse for profit. And so we are going to trial to vindicate that these dogs are not simply objects to be tested on, to be experimented on, to be treated as objects. They are individuals who deserve protection under the law, who deserve what they are entitled to under Wisconsin animal cruelty protections. And around the country where these dogs deserve to be protected under the laws that the people are democratically asking to be enforced.

That's what these dogs deserve. And so we're going to trial because these dogs have a right to be rescued. We're going to speak up because they are not just objects, they are individuals. And we're going to speak up for that in court.

So thank you for being here. Thank you for supporting not just us and our freedom in trial, but for vindicating the right to rescue of the original dogs and to help ensure that no dog, whether it's a marshal, whether it's an original or anywhere around the country, ever experiences that abuse again. Let's keep up the fight and let's support it for the legislation like the Compact Act in Congress.

We're right now, we can end the funding that is causing these experiments to happen and causing this abuse to happen. So let's keep it up and thank you for being here. Our next speaker is Jen Koberstein. She is a local Wisconsinite and a nonprofit health leader.

She lent her property to 1,600 of the Ridgeland Beagles right after they were released. She made sure they got off to rescues all around the country. Thank you, Jen, for being here. Hi, everyone.

Vulnerable animals can't report their suffering and demand justice. They can't demand someone listens. They depend on us and public officials to protect them. The dogs at Ridgeland Farms deserve protection.

Instead, they were ignored for years despite credible evidence of criminal abuse. While Ridgeland avoided criminal prosecution after donating generally to DAOzon, we have watched people who intervened for those animals face felony prosecution. Amy Van Arstin, a researcher at UW, who all of you know, has been trying to get justice for those animals for years. Last week, in court, Ozon asked for her to be put on a GPS monitor.

Amy never stepped foot on Ridgeland's property, yet he is retaliating against her for having the Marty Project page, which is vocal and engaged and calls him out for his lack of action. Our concerns extend beyond Ridgeland. Judges haven't criticized Ozon, and he has a history of retaliation. Someone who ran against him, he retaliated against, and he settled for $350,000, so this is not news again.

People experiencing poverty, mental illness, abuse, or discrimination also deserve protection and fair treatment. Wealth and influence and institutional power should never determine whose suffering matters and who faces consequences. We are calling for this recall of Ozon because we believe the District Attorney's Office must protect the vulnerable and hold the powerful accountable, especially animals and other individuals who are vulnerable. We invite eligible Dane County Boarders to sign the petition and demand leadership that takes animal cruelty seriously, respects people's rights, and answers to the community, and finally gives the Ridgeland dogs who never made it out of that facility and those who did after way too many years of justice.

I was just notified that our petition is live, and we'll be signing at noon, so any Dane County residents be ready. Thank you. We have been involved in helping the Ridgeland Beagles for five years to The Marty Project. Amy Van Artzen is the proud mom of two Ridgeland Beagles, Daisy and Annabelle, and she also is here for preliminary hearing.

Thank you. So I just heard about Ridgeland about five years ago, after the news story about how Wayne E. that involved this country Beagles in this facility back in 2017. After seeing the photos of the Beagles in horrific conditions, I simply could not see it, and immediately slept out trying to help the Beagles.

I quickly became involved in the incredible local community that had already been working to hold original farms accountable for the animal cruelty that are undocumented by Wayne and the other activists. As our advocacy became increasingly successful and more attention became focused on Ridgeland, it wasn't surprising that District Attorney was on deciding to press charges against the 2017 rescuers. So back in 2024, I found myself on those very courthouse steps as Wayne E.

Van Hall were about to go on trial to rescue the Beagles. At the time, I never imagined that one day, I too would stand on these steps as a felony defendant for my role in trying to save the Beagles, because the government's a daft. But in my dad, they are finally, finally free. The Beagles are free.

I want to talk a bit about what it's been like for me since the original farms closed. After years of being emotionally numb, trying to cope with knowing there were dogs being subjected to animal cruelty in Ridgeland, I felt immense joy when I got to be part of welcoming the last Beagles out of Ridgeland, including Lucky Lori and my sweet little Annabelle. Commoner joy recently turned to profound grief, to see the dogs come out and the witness to the difficult and psychological suffering and trauma has left me really insane.

I thought I could bring myself over to my team, but it was so much worse than I could imagine. I've absolutely loved being able to share footage of my seat with my pet, Davey and Annabelle, experiencing the joy of finally getting to just be dogs. But I haven't shared it with publicly about the suffering they experienced at Ridgeland, which has continued to affect them eventually. When Davey came out of Ridgeland at four months old, she was sick with double lung pneumonia.

Until they had an extra dick again, I remember how weak she was and snuggling with her in bed while she was up all night coughing. Like so many other pups, she also had uRDS, which required multiple treatment rounds to revolve. She's come such a long way since May, but she's still apprehensive and nervous around new people. She's absolutely terrified of TV and takes hours to calm down when I'm trying to slowly introduce the TV universe.

She's scared of new objects, and she's many unexplained visceral years, which has dispelled us all. When Annabelle came out of Ridgeland, I had never met a puppy that was more shut down. Though she watched the live stream, it took her quite a while before she would even try to walk on the grass. She was severely impacted and had significant blood in her soul.

She was severely pain when she would try to have a bowel movement. She would cry out and look around, trying to figure out who was hurting her. She expected someone to get her hurting her when she was with pain. During the day, Annabelle looked quite well most of the time, despite what she'd been through.

But her trauma really comes out at night. If I roll onto my sleeve, or would I get other pups to move around and Annabelle gets startled, she will squawk for minutes at a time, and sometimes she'll eat the lunge at me and try to bite me. Until she realizes, it's just me. She's safe.

She's with her family. And then she lets up the most devastating sad puppy whippers and asks to be comforted when she realizes where she is. It's so clear how scared she is of remembering back to what she's experienced previously. This is suffering that the chikatunya was on, allowed to happen under his watch.

I am so angry at the system that allowed this to happen. Rigid was clearly crippling ending animals to the point that the Wisconsin veterinary day before was known to lead veterinary places in July, and allowed them to not need to investigate Rigid during all these years. So many dogs famously suffered. So I'm not done fighting for justice for the pups, and today, that means being here with you all, as we head into court to defend the right to rescue.

I'm so grateful each and every one of you. We've already won this, the pups are free, and I believe the truth always eventually prevails, even if the past justice is won. Thank you. Our next speaker is Lady Shum.

The lawyer and animal-like activist who started all this, because he was out here in a condition in the Cleveland Farms nine years ago, and shared what he learned with the world. He worked for years to get the attention of authorities, and he is the reason we got a special, I know there were a few who called him, but, he is mainly the reason that we got a special prosecutor to investigate the facility.

When you organize the rescue on March 15th, and the action on April, the rescue on March 18th, and the action on April 18th, and basically winning, all this is because of you, and we thank you so much. We went to Rigid Farms in 2017, and I haven't even told you so many folks. I went out to Rigid Farms to get the dogs out. We don't have a lot of time, so I want to be very brave in my comments, but I think a lot of us, as this election is coming, are feeling a little guarded about the world.

I'm going to sadly tell you, my experiences over the last couple of years have made me feel the system is even more consistent. There is no way to describe the way the legal system in Dane County approaches these dogs than psychopathology, a complete lack of empathy and inability to see the suffering of vulnerable beings. One example of this, I'll just tell you one quick example, and we've got to go into court, is in October 2024, when we presented evidence before a court of law for the first time, it's the first time we got a chance to bring the evidence to the court, we had photographs that had just been taken by dad-capped inspectors showing a poor mom with an injured foot.

She had a mass assist, she was hobbling and whimpering on the page. The instructor said there was no treatment indicated. His mom has been here. This assist is very bad.

She's been suffering for a long time. And when you look at this poor dog's eyes, and I encourage you all to find this photograph, you see not only has her freedom been taken, not only will she eventually sacrifice her life for this facility, but they took her spirit. Her entire life, and many of these dogs living in these cages, standing on metal wire for seven, eight years, her entire life, she had never felt anything soft.

All she had known was suffering. So we tried to present to the authorities, we tried to get anyone to talk to us about us. We did the initial special prosecutor proceeding, and ended. I actually sat in the room with Isabelle's arm and tried to get an even look at these photos.

And the response we got over and over again was no one gave a damn. No one cared. No one even bothered to look at the photos, much less try to imagine what one of these dogs is going through. But here, that's very beautiful.

It's a disservice about the nature of our legal system, that the most vulnerable people can go through profound suffering and torment, and our legal system just doesn't care. There's no reason for that we can go into. But it's a reason it was fake that our political system hasn't been gone today. But here's my source of hope.

At the same time we presented to the authorities and they ignored it, we were on the streets of Wisconsin, we were posting on social media from time and time again. When I told the story of this mama, the people on the streets of Wisconsin, they said to me, Please, help her. Please, this mama needs to get out. Take her home.

Make her safe. Give her a hug. Let her, for one time in her life, feel something soft. So many people like Amy cried when told these stories to them.

And I knew that. It was not a problem with our community. It was not a problem for our people. Our people are not psychopathic people in Wisconsin or anywhere in the world.

Our people wanted these dogs to be helped. And that gave me hope. And it gives me hope today, because when we argued before a jury of our peers that these dogs needed help, I convinced they will be with us. Because this nation is a nation of animal lovers and it's time to bring that nation's values to life.

Thank you all very much. I think we're going to go on the court now. We're going to do a photo first. I'll send it back to my backdrop down again.

Can we all say it's over? Yeah. We're going to do a photo together and then we're going to do a photo. There's donuts right up there, behind the wall.

Another donut. Let's get together. Great. If you...

If you see the light... But you like each other. Alright. Everybody's getting together for a photo now on the courthouse steps before they go into court.

Let's watch it happen. You're doing an amazing job. Jamie sets on bringing us this in challenging situations. So thank you.

And as you can see here, Jane, we've got a couple of the Ridgeland rescues here at the courthouse. Yeah, you can see the dogs, the dogs being held on the left side there. Look at those doggies. Those are Ridgeland dogs that were rescued on March 15th.

All right, so they're getting ready to head into court. Amy was just filling us in on some of the rules of going in. So I believe that I will be in an overflow room in the basement where we're able to watch a live stream from the courtroom. And I think I will be able to live stream in there so that we can all watch together.

Amazing work. As always, Jamie, people don't maybe realize how hard it is to bring this live to us. So you're doing an amazing job. I just hope you don't get scooped up by CNN or NBC or ABC because you're doing such great work.

What we'll do is follow you with the sound off till you get set up so you can stay live and we'll just see, you know, just or whatever you prefer. Like, I don't want to get you in any situations. First of all, what are your reactions? You've flown here from New York to bring us this coverage.

What what what were your takeaways, Jamie? Well, it was great to hear Dean mention Marshall Bio resources in New York since I am local to that area. I've been very involved with the organizing and there's so many great people organizing now in New York trying to put a stop to the cruelty happening at Marshall Bio resources just like these brave rescuers did at Ridgeland Farms. So that was great to hear him mention that.

And, you know, just it was so moving what so many of the speakers were saying. Amy and Wayne, when they were just talking about the suffering of these dogs and how that's just being overlooked by our justice systems that are prosecuting the rescuers rather than the abusers, it's unfortunate. And I hope there will be justice on this. And like Wayne said, it's great that, you know, in the court of public opinion, the people who rescue the dogs from abuse win.

I have a question. We've got somebody asking Fox six investigator Brian covering this. Did you see other media there this morning? I did see some other folks with cameras who looked like they probably were media.

So I can't say for sure, but I would I believe so. And if you happen to get the link to the petition, we just heard breaking news that there's a petition to recall Wayne County District Attorney O'Zane. I think that's how you pronounce it. Give us the link so we can tell our viewers about that.

And we invite the DA on any time as well as anybody mentioned. So head in, get in there, get as close as you can to the microphone, to the camera. Yeah, we did a recall petition to recall O'Zane. OK, so would you be able to speak a little bit about it here?

Yeah, so after last week's hearing, we decided that we were done with the inaction by O'Zane, especially after he asked for Amy to be put on a GPS. We really feel like he's wasting taxpayer dollars and he's not taking care of the vulnerable in Dane County. So we filed the petition yesterday. I received an email notification this morning around 730 that it has been approved.

We will have signature packets ready at lunchtime today and we're going to kick off the recall of the DA. He has left the dogs alone for too long. He let so many of them suffer and die in that facility and he does not deserve his position and it's time to recall him. Is that something that anybody can sign or you have to live in Wayne County?

You have to live in Dane County, but we need tons of volunteers. And even people from out of the county and out of the area who can help us with social media, who can help with organizing, who can help with all sorts of other things. So if you're interested in helping us and you don't live in Dane County, we need your help. We do have a website that is recalldanecountyda.com and we have a Facebook page called the Committee to Recall Ishmael Ozan.

Amy's got it all over the Marty Project page. So if you look there, she'll be posting all of the details. They are one more time to help. We need 75,000 signatures in 60 days.

So it's a big lift. Can you tell us the website one more time? Recall the Dane County DA.com. It isn't live yet.

It'll be live later today. I got it. Thank you so much. Thank you very much.

Wow. Recall the day. This is what she said. Recall the Dane County DA.com.

We'll check it out, but it's not live yet. Well, Jamie, excellent job as always head in there. We're going to talk to our, our panel, unless there's something else that you think we should be covering. Yeah, no, sounds good, Jane.

And I'm going to get confirmation from Amy on where I can go now. Okay. And we'll just watch you. If you have to turn off your camera, we totally understand.

All right. Well, get back to our panel. You've been watching this. Tiffany Brunelli, you've been to the location.

You were there the next time in April where the infamous battle between law enforcement and the would be rescuers occurred where they use tear gas and rubber bullets on the rescuers. I believe that was in April. Um, so, you know, the location of the Ridgeland Beagle breeding facility, this is the second rescue. This is the one where about a thousand rescuers tried to go in there and were repelled by law enforcement using tear gas and rubber bullets.

This is what got a global media attention because it was literally like a war zone. But Tiffany Brunelli, former law enforcement investigator turned back to this having been to the location, uh, Ridgeland farms, which is now closed. And as you heard from the speakers, all the remaining 2000 dogs were a transfer to rescue groups like Beagle freedom project, big dog, ranch rescue. What's your reaction, Tiffany, to what you saw and heard today?

Yeah, I was thinking about some of the signs. He wrote heroes, not felons. I'm just thinking, um, it's just so, so many brave, beautiful faces here that are putting so much on the line. Wayne and Dean 31 years in prison and all the other defendants that are facing 12 and a half years for rescuing dogs that they claim were being criminally abused.

It's just, we're going to see today, I believe some of the evidence that the DA is going to attempt to use against them and find out more once we get inside. And we're just following the process as our incredible reporter, Jamie sets on goes in there. And if she has to turn off her camera, you don't know. Maybe some official says, turn that off.

You'll know that's why we turned it off. It's a little shaky because she's walking to the next location. So we're delighted to have Tamara beddock and attorney provide some context. So with, um, preliminary hearings in general, and I understand you're not a criminal attorney, criminal defense attorney, but a, uh, a civil attorney, but in general, my understanding from having covered many trials is preliminary hearings.

It's where the government kind of makes its initial case and then the judge decides, okay, we're going to move forward with an actual trial. Is that correct, Tamara? Absolutely. Although there are three different ways this, this could go, right?

So, and it's under the judge's discretion. So the standard is probable cause, right? So that's what we're trying to hit. Is there probable cause?

Is there evidence that X person did this thing that the DA is charging that person with? So for example, one of the defendants is charged with taking two dogs and putting them in his Tesla. What evidence does the DA have that would go to prove the elements of that felony, of that, of that crime. And if the DA has that evidence, then the judge can do one of three things.

He can decide, okay, there is sufficient evidence to prove this felony. And it goes forward as a felony. The other thing the judge can decide is, you know, you have some evidence, but it doesn't seem like it will rise to a felony charge. So why don't we reduce that charge?

So that's the second thing the judge can do. The third thing he can do is he can just say, no, you got nothing. I'm completely unconvinced and we're dismissing that. So three different ways it can go.

Um, I suspect that because this is an open rescue and because people were extremely open about what they did, both when they did it, and subsequently on social media, I suspect that there will be enough evidence that the DA has accumulated to substantiate the charges. And as we heard today from the steps of the courthouse, these people want to go to trial. They want to go to trial.

Yes. And so just so you know, our reporter, Jamie Sasson is headed into court. We just covered the rally outside court and now she's headed to an overflow room where the court proceedings are going to be broadcast on a TV type situation, like what you see behind me, and she's going to get as close as she can so that everybody watching can see what's happening in court.

It's supposed to start in about 10 minutes. So hang in there because this is a very, very important day. Now, what I wonder about is open rescue, which is what they did. It's designed not to hide evidence.

This is an upside down world of usually defendants try to hide evidence and the prosecution tries to bring evidence in. Right. Whereas in this case with open rescue, where they show everything as they do it, because they have, they say, we have nothing to hide. We want to show the conditions.

We want to tell the world what we're doing. So let's show some of the evidence that the defendants themselves have put out to the world, but unfortunately that could be used by the prosecution to prosecute them Tamara. Well, here's the thing about the evidence as we've seen with previous open rescue cases, Wayne's conviction in November, 2023, Zoe's conviction in October, 2025. The defendants have the evidence.

The defendants have photographs of what these dogs went through. They have video footage of what these dogs went through. They have the probable cause that was found by a previous judge in Dane County, Rhonda Lanford. They have evidence from a DAT cap that there were regulatory problems within the facility, 311 violations.

So there's plenty of evidence. The question is whether any of that will get in to provide context for what happened next, i.e. the open rescue. So again, in Sonoma County with Wayne and the duck facility, he wasn't allowed to bring that evidence in with Zoe and the forehands that she rescued.

She wasn't allowed to bring her evidence in. Already, September 28th, the D.A. and Dane County recommended that much of the evidence that would give context to this open rescue, both in March and then in April, that that be suppressed, that a potential jury never see that. Now his motion to suppress that evidence, his motion to prevent that from coming into trial, that's specifically against the four defendants that will begin in January, not against these 47, but we see this pattern of district attorneys not allowing evidence in so that a jury of 12 people is looking at someone breaking a door, looking at someone breaking a window, looking at someone else carrying out a

beagle, no context whatsoever. Now, if that happens, then I would be saying, you know, then I would think this story is not being told. Well, that's that's the concern that a lot of yes, is that let's show, for example, some of the video that I could guess that we never know for sure. But I would guess that the prosecution would want to show by the way, I want to make it very clear, not everybody you saw there is being charged.

I mean, there were more than 47 people there at the entire event and 47 people plus the four who are facing more serious charges, Wayne Shung and Dean and two others, and I should say their names, Michelle Lunsky and Aditya Aswani. There's four facing 31 years, but today is the preliminary hearing for 47 who are facing 12 years. And we can't say that everybody you just saw is is facing charges.

They how did they determine who was going to get charges? I asked one of the people there and they said to me, I don't know, did they just look at the license plates and write down the license plate numbers? So I have no idea, you know, exactly which person from that vote from that video is going to face charges, but they could still play the entire thing to show what was happening that day.

So the concern from the activists is they're going to show all that, but then they won't show what's happening inside what was happening inside the facility. And this is footage from something like nine years ago that Wayne Shung recorded with his team and he went in there, I believe that was 2017 to to document this is when it all started. So to to not show this, the dog spinning and there's even other video that's more concerning with that, but only showing them going in that that could present a picture of people just going in and violating the law without putting it in context is what you're saying, Tamara.

Exactly, exactly. And then, you know, there's other evidence as well, for example, that the judge, that the the judge, Lanford, who had the hearing back in October, she found probable cause to appoint a special prosecutor. The prosecutor could have potentially gone forward on animal cruelty charges, but then decided to negotiate. So that particular prosecutor found enough evidence to potentially go forward with which he then negotiated closure and relinquishing of the breeding license of Ridgeland.

Right. Then you have what happened to the veterinarian, the investigation of the veterinarian, first his suspension, then the revocation of his license. What about Beagle Freedom Project and what happened to beagles that were ultimately removed where eighty four point five percent of them, I believe, according to Shannon Keith, had some serious problem, had some serious health problem. So there is such abundant evidence of yes, exactly.

The abundant evidence that these dogs were in terrible, terrible shape. How much of that will a potential jury or judge see? And Ozon, excuse me, the district attorney is doing his best to make sure that that those images do not see the light of day. That's a big problem.

This was presented by Beagle Freedom Project, which rescued almost five hundred of the dogs, in other words, got them into good homes, run by Shannon Keith, a very famous organization. Indeed, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have adopted a beagle from Beagle Freedom Project that was in People Magazine and Entertainment Tonight. So it's a very, very well known organization and they got almost five hundred of the beagles.

And the footage you just saw there is the report that they did saying approximately eighty five percent of those animals had abnormalities and they showed some injuries to their bodies. Now, let me play the Richland statement. Richland, which has closed down, has long said that the dogs in their care were happy and healthy animals despite reports of sores and other medical and behavioral issues. Richland highlights that it passed federal regulatory inspections, quote, now the transfer plans have been finalized.

This is when the dogs were transferred. And we asked that the years-long harassment campaign targeting the research facilities, owners, staff, and neighbors come to an end. We also hope Wisconsin's legal system will hold accountable the individuals who organized and carried out the repeated violent assaults and thefts that have recently taken place at our facility. So clearly, Richland, which we invite on representatives from Richland anytime, they want to see this prosecution go forward.

So Tamara, how much weight does that have? Well, it depends on how close Richland is to the district attorney in Dane County. And it seems like they had a close relationship for years. Also, there was some comment this morning about donations to the DA.

The DA in Dane County is an elected office. The DA will be up for re-election in 2028. I'm sure that he wants the business community of Dane County to continue supporting him with their donations so that he can run a successful campaign. He is running on the Democratic ticket.

And now it seems that he's going to be facing a potential recall if 75,000 signatures are gathered within a fairly short window. I think it was said 30 days, 60 days, something like that. So the other thing that I wanted to mention. Let me just say one thing, though, very briefly, is that we can't independently confirm, you know, this is a live broadcast.

People are saying things. So I have absolutely no confirmation of any donations made to his campaign or any of that. And again, we invite anyone or any company, representatives in which on Unchained TV, anytime we would love to get your side of the story and respond further beyond the statement that we put out. So yes, continue on and then then I'd like to hear from Tiffany as well.

Thank you. Well, I just wanted to close by saying that the rescuers and Wayne Shung specifically attempted to bring the DA into the process very, very early on. There were literally hundreds of phone calls and thousands of emails to his office over the course of years and years of this investigation. This investigation did not begin even, you know, when we saw the rescue, what this investigation began nine years ago and possibly even earlier.

So his refusal and turning a blind eye is very questionable, particularly when there are laws in Wisconsin against exactly this kind of animal cruelty. So it could be argued and I think it will be argued by the defendants that this particular DA failed to do his job. Something's going on in court. Let's listen in and see if we can, well, let's show you.

I can't, I can't hear. Okay, there they are. It looks like they're in the basement. Okay.

Jane, can you hear me? Yes, I can. What's happening? So defendants are just waiting outside the courtroom.

They're going to go in in a few minutes. I was going to see if we could get some thoughts from Wayne before he goes in. Okay, yeah. It'd be great always to talk to Wayne.

We were just talking about how this began nine years ago when he went into Richland and initially documented the conditions. So it's quite a scene. So from here you're going to go downstairs. Now the hearing was supposed to start a minute ago.

I know that the last time they initially blocked the public from going in, the very first hearing that happened just, I don't know, it was a few days ago actually, and initially the supporters were blocked from going in and they filed a complaint and then they were allowed in. This is my understanding anyway and perhaps that's why they have an overflow room downstairs this time to accommodate all these supporters, some of whom have come from really far away.

You've come from New York. You're not a defendant. So yeah, let's see. Let's see what Wayne has to say if we can.

Wayne, I'm sorry, would you be able to say anything for Unchained TV just quickly before you go? Let me just check to see where our lawyer is. Sure. Yeah.

We understand he has to do a few things and say hi to everybody. He says he'll be back. Yeah, and I wonder if, yes, go ahead. Go ahead, Tiffany.

Can we talk to Pete right there? He's one of the defendants. He's right there in the suit. I'm sure he'd be happy to think.

Yeah, let's try to talk to Pete, the person to the right of you in a gray suit. However, if that fills up, they have an overflow set up down in the jury assembly room on the board level. They will have a video down there. When the corridor opens up, we will not be allowing backpacks or beverages inside the courtroom.

Signage also cannot go inside the courtroom. Signage is perfectly welcome out here. Just stop inside the courtroom. Any questions?

Thank you. Where do you leave back? Where would you be able to leave them? Pete, would we be able to get any thoughts from you before you go into court today?

Sure, absolutely. You know, I was just talking to a friend, a fellow codefendant, and some of his friends who have been to jail before were giving him nothing but scare tactics about what's happening today. And I asked him, I said, did your friends go to jail for doing the wrong thing or doing the right thing? And he said exactly.

That's why I didn't feed into any of that. What we did and the reason why we're here today is because we did the right thing. We are not criminals. We're not guilty of anything except for showing compassion and doing what those that are in power should have done in the first place.

They had the evidence over 300 counts of criminal animal abuse and they chose to look the other way instead of doing their job. We had to step in and do their job for them. We did the right thing. So however it goes here today and beyond, we can all sleep soundly at night.

I don't know how these people sleep soundly at night but I gladly trade my freedom for the Beagles who are now free. So however this goes, it goes the right way because we already won. The Beagles are free and we're going to move on to the next biggest thing. MBR, we'll see you soon.

We're not stopping here. We're not stopping today. This fight is just beginning. Do you think this is a moment in history for the animal rights movement in general?

Do you think this is a moment in history for the animal rights movement in general? Absolutely yeah. I mean as we all know I was just talking to a gentleman who's a local here and he's like you know I first found out about this. He's a local didn't know that Richmond was in his backyard.

He said I first found out about this on Fox News. So you know this transcends political ideology whether you're vegan or not vegan. The and I think that this is the final nail in the coffin of pivot section because this sort of thing can only exist if it exists in the dark. These people are locals.

They had no idea it was going on in their own backyard but it has been brought to light and once darkness is brought to light it's exposed and we can end it and we will. Very well said. Thank you. Yes thank you.

Good luck in there today. Yes so um I hope you don't have too much luggage that you've got to drop off so you can kind of just go in there and tell us what's happening but you're doing a great job. It's a little chaotic. Oh yes we've got unseen do you have any thoughts do you want to share before going into court today?

I mean but I said outside the courthouse is this system is not just broken it's not just corrupt it's got to the point that it's psychopathic and that's not an exaggeration. A lot of people are deeply troubled about how our political legal system is operating and a case like vision shows a spot because when the legal system is operating well it reflects the human element spiritually. It tries to take the perspective of the people who are caught up in the system.

The animals that are caught in the system and psychopaths don't do that the psychopath literally is someone who lacks the capacity to feel what you feel feel what someone is hurting is feeling and what I said outside of the courtroom is even as you presented this evidence in court in October of 2024 the authorities just refused to even engage with any of the voters they refused to

imagine what it was like to be a mama beagle whining and hobbling constantly in pain at wisdom farms and it's terrifying that this is how our legal system is gone but our hope and frankly not just hope but our faith in the future should come from the fact that that's not how the people feel because at the same time that where I was bringing images of these

poor animals being ruthlessly tortured to the authorities and they're ignoring everything we're also sharing these same photos on the streets of Wisconsin including the sidewalk right outside of this courthouse the Capitol building a couple blocks away on social media to millions of Americans and the response could not have been working time and time again we showed people that exact photograph of a mama beagle trapped in a

cage at wisdom farms suffering with a fist on her foot unable to walk properly what people would say to us is please the love of god get her out I'm going to help her make her safe make her love make her feel something soft for the first time in her life and that that gap between the way the public feels the way the public wants our legal

system to operate and the way that the legal system is operating this huge opportunity for those of us who are trying to create change and that's what we're going to do for today we're going to create some change so and I have a quick question Wayne is that now we have also the convergence of high-tech methods like AI quantum computing organs on a chip organoids do you

feel that all these forces are coming together to end vivisection so do you feel like this effort combined with all the new technology is coming together to really bring an end to vivisection yeah I think that animal experimentation is in its last days and this is not just me saying this Scott Marshall the the CEO of marshall bioresearch one of the largest animal breeding and experimentation facilities

in the world we got 60 000 plus animals that used in experiments he himself said in a press interview just a couple weeks ago the writings in the wall and when the industry itself concedes that the writing is on the wall the writing is definitely on the wall but it's going to come not from honestly vivisectors like Scott Marshall seeing the writing in the wall you know

having pains and conscience and you know having a from these years this moment it's going to come from public pressure from metal so that's why every single person who's watching this the work that Unchained does to ensure people know about what's happening these animals are given opportunities to speak out that's what's going to be a great change and that's why we're excited to see the big crowd

here we're excited to see so much public support for the original 51 any other questions jane no i mean you are facing far more serious charges than even the 47 you're facing 31 years how how is this impacting your life i know you're married to to somebody who lives in england did you have to come here from london to to support these activists today yeah so on

a personal level you travel from england you're also facing charges that hold an even more lengthy sentence so i guess how you're feeling about all of that how it's affecting your life yeah so i sound a little crazy but hopeful i really think you know last time i was charged i said when the prosecution dismissed the charges against us but i was angry about the dismissal because

i thought the case was an opportunity for a court for the public to see both the truth of what's happening to animals you can find the facilities and the tremendous opportunity for us to become who we were meant to be or jury to send a message to the authorities to the political system that who we are it's not a nation of animal tortures not a nation that

wants to confine and abuse defenseless animals but a nation of animal office a nation of caretakers and it's not just our nation it's our species i think this is who we're meant to be so i'm optimistic this is going to get it give us a chance to send that message to the world thank you so much thank you yeah sure i'm gonna go hang out some all

right yeah wow uh just amazing when you consider that he's facing 31 years in prison and by the way uh somebody said wane is no longer with dxe but rather the simple heart yes but he is always going to be the co-founder of direct action everywhere which is what we put up in any case uh but support the simple heart as well um it's uh i believe

on substack and it's an entire organization as well so um uh but he was with dxe when he went in initially nine years ago to to document this so dxe is very much a part of all this in that sense tiffany as a former law enforcement investigator turned activist what do you make of the just the i have to say bravery of people facing all these years

in prison i feel like it causes me more anxiety than it causes them i know it's just they're excited to get the evidence out there and and show what's been going on behind closed doors and risking wane jean misha they're all risking 30 something years and all these defendants risking 12 and a half years that's a long time to be away from your pets and your family

and your career and your life it's really really scary i can't imagine how dedicated they are wane has been behind bars that's right he has been uh incarcerated for uh short periods of time like i believe a month or something like that so i can tell you as a reporter uh back when i was with mainstream media somebody came up with the kooky idea of putting me

through the whole process of getting arrested getting booked fingerprinted and put inside a jail cell they thought that was a great idea for a sweet series and i can tell you that i was traumatized and kind of forgot that it was all happening for a series and when they closed that prison door and left me in a cell it was traumatizing this is nothing to sneeze at

and that was something that was done for a tv show i oh by the way there are photos of me all over the internet in an orange jumpsuit with no explanation that it was done for a series so there's that too but the point is that it was traumatizing um what is your as an attorney and we'll mute this uh scene here while we're waiting to get

into court as an attorney tamara what is your reaction to how they're handling this situation they're incredible i mean the defendants are incredible but you know wayne specifically is and and i think i'm going to speak personally now we go to law school people go to law school because we want justice because we want a better world and we invest years of our lives in pursuit of

a degree and then we invest a decade longer to pay off the tuition and to establish ourselves in a field that all along we thought was a just thing to do and then to witness and to read animal cruelty statutes in wisconsin and to witness a colleague refusing to do anything about the enforcement of those statutes is personally very painful and so why do you think that

because let's just do a recap it was about nine years ago that wayne shung was the co-founder of direct action everywhere as well as the founder of the simple heart went in to ridgeland you're looking at a photo of him they're doing that they took i believe three beagles out two or three beagles he documented what was happening there and here's some of the footage that he

and his team got showing the spinning dogs which is an example of stress and discomfort and he was prosecuted for that at the 11th hour right before trial they dropped the charges against wane shung instead of walking what yes instead of walking away and saying wow that was a close call wane was upset and he continued to challenge the court system there to do something about what

was happening inside ridgeland and there was ultimately a hearing where a whistleblower named scotty testified that uh non-veteranarians were performing painful surgeries on the beagles eyes without anesthesia that resulted in a special prosecutor being appointed and that led to a deal where the special prosecutor said we're not going to charge ridgeland criminally if you stop your breeding operation selling these beagles to laboratories the activists led by

wane shung were very upset by that deal and they said no because there's still animals there approximately 2000 beagles behind bars what happens to them that's when they began this rescue operation in march of 2026 is that your understanding of basically how it went down tamera yes yes and i um and in the interim one caveat there were two whistleblowers there was altham also matthew reich who

testified in front of judge lanford but in answer to your question absolutely there were 2100 beagles that were in limbo in ridgeland and ridgeland had previously been selling dog cadavers because dog cadavers are purchased by veterinary schools and medical schools all throughout the country so there is an enormous market for dog cadavers and fox5 reported that nasco which provides dog cadavers was the largest purchaser of ridgeland

beagles for two years in a row so the question comes to one were they just killing these dogs to provide cadavers because a live laboratory specimen of a dog was about a thousand dollars the cadavers were probably somewhere between 10 and 20 dollars because they were being resold for 75 so by the way this is your information i independently have no knowledge you haven't investigated that right

and i cannot confirm any of that but continue on with the general idea it is what you're saying tamara that they were concerned that those 2000 beagles would end up suffering or dying which is why they were suffering or dying because they would be worth something even as cadavers and so if they could not sell them for the full value of a thousand they would they have

they had shown themselves willing to sell them for pennies on the dollar just to get something out of the beagles and so that was the concern there was an attempt in wisconsin state to put forward a law that would have forced ridgeland to make an attempt to adopt the animals out but that was not ultimately successful and so there was a real deep concern about what would

happen to 2100 beagles and that is when yeah yeah and that's when they went in and correct march and correct yeah now let me just say for those who aren't keeping up because this is a complicated story ultimately the 2000 beagles got out and here is some happy beagle footage as the beagles were first released so we we do have to say that ridgeland who we invite

on anytime even though they've closed their facility did communicate with big dog ranch rescue and with the center for humane economy and ultimately these beagles were sold to those rescue groups that then and beagle freedom project also distributed about 500 of those animals so here is the image of those beagles getting out so while this whole saga was playing out of Wayne and other rescues going in

there trying to rescue them rescuing 30 beagles initially in march eight were reconfiscated by law enforcement so they got 22 beagles out during the march rescue then the infamous April rescue where there was the war zone between the law enforcement and the approximately 1000 rescuers where no beagles were rescued because the law enforcement hit the rescuers with tear gas and rubber bullets it was while this was

happening and shortly after this that the behind the scenes negotiations were taking place to get those beagles out but what the activists are saying Tiffany is that you shouldn't have to go to these lengths to ensure that animals in any situation in any company are treated kindly but the problem with that is the whole point of vivisection is to see what the results of pain do to

an animal I mean that's pretty much the bottom line with vivisection they're not giving them massages we have one image here that involves MBR acres that just illustrates this is a dog getting hit with toxic chemicals of some sort from a mass that they can't take off so the dichotomy is that while there are laws to protect animals the animals are being bred precisely for experiments that

are painful some would say torturous and generally result in their death or at least very often result in their death so that's the dichotomy yeah Jane I heard Wayne recently talking to that the dogs at some of these facilities or Marshall allegedly the ones that are trained those dogs are being trained to wear those masks in that video that you just showed they go for a much

higher price I forgot what they're called but they have a special name and they can get top dollar if they can sell a beagle that's already trained to wear a gas mask wow it's you know and again here's the thing this is all happening in the context of rapid rapid progress in science and you know we can make a very strong case and there are many people

that have made a very strong case that animal experimentation was never effective that 95% of all drugs that work in animals don't work in humans and vice versa so just like if my dogs chocolate or grapes they could get very sick and sadly I eat chocolate and grapes all the time and I don't get sick I might just put on a couple of pounds so the point

is that we don't have paws we don't have tails we're not animals but that's been said for hundreds of years actually what's new is that there is quantum computing which can do literally work that would take humans hundreds of years in minutes there's artificial intelligence we all know about that there's organs on a chip there's organoids basically where they can test drugs on what is the equivalent

of human cells human tissues so there's a convergence happening and this is not politics we don't get involved in what I would call electoral politics but the fact is that there are members of Congress that are denouncing this industry republican and democrat let's listen to one who is denouncing what's happening in New York State at the nation's largest breeder of beagles and other animals marshal bio resources

this is a U.S. congressman talking and he sounds like an animal rights activist listen to Congressman Langworth if someone in the crowd here from England someone from Washington State I mean since I have joined this fight I have heard from people that have contacted my office from all 50 states because this is not just a local matter although it's disgusting that this is a local matter that this is going on

right here in New York State and I had a long conversation this week with with the USDA and talking about a lot of policy matters talking about legislation that we're working on talking about what their criteria and what they're allowed to do under the law with inspections and they are woefully behind because the laws on a site like this they do back to the 60s these animal

testing regulations are far too old they need to be modernized they need to be improved and his opponent says that's not far enough it's not modernized or improved we need to get rid of animal experimentation entirely and then you have another member of Congress who I believe represents this district Congressman Pocan who confronted the Health and Human Services Secretary RFK Junior at a congressional hearing about this

in my district we have something called Ridgeland Farms that's a beagle breeder for research they've had 311 code violations including very serious harm to the health of dogs grants are still in the last month going to groups that are getting beagles from Ridgeland Farms could you please take a look at this I believe you but I have a hard time believing that I need to look into

this now that was a while ago that was like before Ridgeland closed down late this past summer but that all just gives you the general idea that you have members of Congress who as we all know they don't stick their neck out very often literally denouncing this industry and RFK Junior did announce that they are establishing new procedures and agencies within agencies to develop non-animal methods that

was announced after that confrontation you just saw so you have National Institutes of Health and Human Services and even the FDA now announcing that they are really focusing on non-animal methods for the very first time so there's a convergence there Tamara this isn't happening in a vacuum this is happening as the culture is changing absolutely absolutely for example the FDA is looking to change its language the

language of its regulation to remove the word animal and to insert instead non-clinical which takes into account some of the very methods that you just listed organoids and AI and certainly congressmen like Langworthy like Pocan have spoken up against Marshall Bioresources and Ridgeland respectively but so has Representative Claudia Tenney in New York's District 24 and she's critical because she is the congresswoman representing the district where Marshall

Bioresources resides in fact recently she went so far as not only to sign on to the compact act but upon discovering the campaign contributions by Marshall Bioresources she redirected those funds to an animal rescue called Gordian Friends in New York in Finger Lakes District so you're right this is a bipartisan effort of Republicans and Democrats together to look at the abuses that are seemingly widespread in this

industry and to really ask ourselves why are we spending billions of taxpayer dollars to keep something going when 94-95% of the time it doesn't even translate to humans and people have offered many explanations for why this industry continues and one of the reasons that's been offered is a lot of it goes to universities and those universities get a cut every time a grant is given to a

scientist at a university that university gets a cut so it's very lucrative and some of these tests called basic research go on for decades and this is an old issue I read somewhere that they were breaking dogs final court since before Christ BC to see what would happen and they're still doing similar torturous experiments on animals so I'm hoping that this is a moment a cultural turning

point I often use the example of horses getting horses off the streets that was one of the earliest issues that created the animal rights movement in the United States and people really campaigned against the poor torture that these carriage horses experienced and then something came along just around the turn of the century 1900 a little before that the electric carriage and all of a sudden there was

an alternative it wasn't take a horse or walk it was oh my gosh there's something else you can do to get around town that was the big turning point and I have to say this past week we saw the New York City Council vote to end carriage horses in New York City which they did 30 years after 30 years of yeah struggle I mean I grew up

in Manhattan and would hear the horses' hoods because I lived in Midtown two blocks in Central Park I would hear them every morning growing up I've seen them and so I would say it's even more than 30 years that I've hoped and prayed that I wouldn't have to hear those clip-clops even though I don't live there anymore but do you see that look at the arc you

know like they say the arc of the universe is long would have been stored justice you had no protection for carriage horses then the electric car came in and now you're seeing that even these so-called nostalgia rides that involve animals are being phased out although the union could be launching a legal battle against it we shall see supposedly they're going to be phased out by 2028 in

any case the point was that when cars when electric carriages came in that offered the alternative even though people had been fighting for horse rights for literally hundreds of years but we have a similar situation here now people have been fighting vivisection for hundreds of years too I mean we don't need to go back to Descartes you know and all of that horror but the point is

that now these high-tech methods are right in our face and it makes there's alternatives that are clearly more effective and so that's coming together with these high-profile cases your your what are your thoughts Tiffany yeah I think it's a really exciting time and the compact act seems like it's really catching on we're getting a lot that we just had an endorsement I believe in San Diego and

I think it will end all federal money going to dog and cat testing by a certain year I understand it correctly and I think it's catching on and anybody who talked to in the grocery store now the post office they all know about the Ridgeland Beagles and before when I went out to Dane County for Wayne the first time when Wayne was supposed to go to trial

when they dropped the charges at the last minute so we had a big convergence there I could take a lift ride and people would go the driver would go there's no testing on dogs they don't test they didn't even know this was going on right in their backyard all that whole everyone I would talk to in that community knew nothing about the Ridgeland Beagles and now it's

just you can talk to people out here in California and they're like oh yeah the Beagles that were freed and why are they still everyone's asking why are we still testing on cats and dogs? It's archaic or any animals so I think we're seeing a change there's an anecdote someone I've known for decades lives in studio city and once allowed some protesters who were protesting against a vivisector who was a neighbor he allowed them to stand on his lawn and he was roundly criticized by his neighbors like what the hell are you doing?

And now he called me recently and said you won't believe this a Ridgeland Beagle was adopted by somebody on our block and everybody held a celebration for the entire neighborhood to me that illustrates the change over 20 years these same people who were castigating him for supporting the anti-vivisectionists were now one of them adopted a Ridgeland dog and they had an entire community celebration over it so

the word Ridgeland has become synonymous with this movement that's why they're called the people going into court are called the Ridgeland 47 I think it's time that we check in with Jamie and find out what's going on this hearing was supposed to start Jamie are you listening what's happening? Well I guess she yeah go ahead can you hear us? Yeah get closer to the mic and tell us what's happening if you would oh I can't we can't hear you at all we cannot hear you if you've got your headsets on yeah okay well whatever you had before was fine I think you're probably going to the headsets keep the headsets off for now okay yeah I just had that and so I can hear you guys because

yeah it's a little noisy here we're waiting there's going to be an announcement when they're about to let everybody in I think they're just getting ready now and I'm going to go down to the overflow room and we'll be able to watch the live stream from there amazing and this was supposed to start like a half an hour ago right yeah yeah so I guess they have

the attorneys in there and it seems like they're getting ready to start letting the dependents in got it so of course we all know and I covered a lot of criminal trials as a mainstream media reporter that it's the most time consuming thing in the world I don't even know how attorneys prosecutors and defense attorneys deal with the I'll mute you for a second I don't know

how prosecutors and defense attorneys deal with just the extreme amount of time that everything takes when it comes to legal proceedings this is just are for the course nothing ever seems to start when it says it's going to start and things just take so much longer than they say they're going to take I liken it to going to an airport and having your flight delayed over and

over again it's just how things go in the court system it takes years sometimes for for example lawsuits to move forward because of this so this is not Tamara you're an attorney this is not unusual at all right right this is par for the course really it's it's all about hurry up and wait yes and so when you see it looks like people are going in now

so I think we've got some movement Jamie if you could go where you're supposed to go if you can hear us head down there and try to get as close as you can to the monitor so we can see what's happening and yeah we'll just follow you in so go on in if you could see us and I'm going to send you a private chat as well

Jamie go on in and get as close as you can to the monitor yeah the the earphones were not working so what we're going to do just give you a little behind the scenes is once she gets set up we have to be quiet because the way it works is that if we talk she can hear it that means everybody can hear it that means we're disrupting

whatever's going on there and wow this is pretty amazing Jamie is doing such a great job just showing us the process now we're going into the overflow room in the basement luckily the wi-fi is good there but we're going to be quiet when she gets set up because the earphones are not working so we we had done a little test last night to see if well if

she was wearing earphones could we talk and that way you could we could sort of comment as the hearing was going on but no once the hearing happens it's not going to happen we'll just have to be quiet and see what happens and and if there's long delays I will kick her out of the studio and then she can join rejoin when action happens so you can

see her going in I hope I really do hope that the wi-fi works I believe that it will because it's the courtroom wi-fi and so it should but there could be some bumpy times here while people are going in so there you go where is this at Tiffany in in terms of the history of the animal rights movement you know there are moments in time if you

look at other social justice movements right famous moments that we all look at with awe now like Rosa Parks refusing to give up her seat at that very moment we may not have realized that history was being made it was in retrospect that we look back at that moment and say wow that was a moment in history where do you think that this stands yeah and I

think we're at the tell end of the end of animal testing for dogs and cats I think we're going to have a little bit longer for other animals but it's eventually going to be all animals we're getting there slowly it's just really ramping up now but we're there we're almost there I believe oh wow thank you and look we've got I believe yes the courtroom so this

is great and again Jamie really good cool really good coffee if you guys are interested wow okay they've got coffee going can you set the stage for us Jamie I see the judge it looks like the judge is sitting down we do not want to interrupt yes yep yes Jane so we have our overflow room here of supporters the monitor's up here so I'm gonna get us

set up so that we can hear everything that's going on in the courtroom there yeah just get the camera set up right as close as we can to the action and then we will be quiet we understand that anything we say can be heard so we're not going to talk we're going to let this proceeding unfold and if I kick you out that's because we've got some

time and we then just rejoin thank you all right and Jane is this close enough you think yeah but what about hearing I can't hear anything yeah they haven't turned the volume on yet okay thank you so much maybe a little scooch closer just a scooch so we really see the top of the judge's head perfect I've entered an order that there's going to be no live

streaming and we are going to get started here appreciate everybody's patience we're doing these in three groups we will call the state of Wisconsin versus Lula Anderson 26 CF-1417 Carla Cabral 26 CF-1421 Donna DeBela 26 CF-1425 Emily Anderson 26 CF-1416 Amy Van Arsen 26 CF-1457 and Scott Gilbertson 26 CF-2156 Maxwell Duran 26 CF-1426 Houston Hill at 26 CF-1430 Aaron Marcus 26 CF-1439 and Alexander Paul 26 CF-1445

Thank you both for that Alexandra Keyes to the stage and also Kristen as Detective Wesley Keyes to make sure it's awesome Kristen drank his urine on behalf of Mr. Gilbertson Mr. Duran Mr. Howard Mr.

Marcus Chris Gerowy on behalf of the University Peter is Homer on behalf of Emily Anderson William Galvinak on behalf of Carla Cabral Madru Anderson and Donna DeBela All right I did want to summarize our conversation off the record we spent a fair amount of time talking about logistics here because of the number of defendants from attorneys my proposal was that we break these up into about three

different groups and we've done that but it's been a helpful lot of making for a record in regards to that I'll let you do that in a second you've also got an overflow room and we've got the general spectators down there just to protect someone and just to turn these into courtrooms and so I think we're ready to proceed but if council wanted to make any record

in regards to how we've decided to do this be one balance your opportunity Here I have a clarification about access to the courtroom I don't know if there are any general spectators in here is the order that no general spectators can be in this courtroom they have to go to the overflow I think the bailiffs were asking that the general public go down to the overflow room

we had plenty of room for all our officers It would just be our request for showing the American state federal rights to public hearings for the general public be allowed into this courtroom obviously obviously we need capacity I'm going to take that record Anything else from council? Nothing additional Okay I'm fine with that I wanted to make sure we had enough space for all the tenants who were not going to be at the council table in council All right With that I think we're prepared to proceed with our first preliminary hearing and hearing most of you prepared Yes I had some relates to the full court I don't expect the state's public we didn't

expect live streaming that's inviting My understanding was full was to let any charge that their attorneys have space to be in here and then let other people fill in over the less space so I thought I agree I'm fine with that I think the bales weren't sure we were going to have an upper room and they wanted to make sure everybody else got in so we all

have the doors open to the general public and then you wanted to pick up the first question Jane we have some spectators moving up to the main courtroom now after finding out that they are allowed to be up there up to I guess the maximum capacity that they have room for but we need to still stay down here to live stream I think we need to confirm

he just said no live streaming so we are live streaming from an overflow but we need to confirm that that's allowed I don't want to be violating a court order I have asked security and they've told me I'm allowed to live stream down here okay so security said you were allowed to live stream all right you heard it here and when you say security you were saying

a bailiff I believe it was a bailiff yes it was somebody right outside the courtroom with a badge who I asked and he said down here is where we're allowed to live stream from okay because the judge just said no live streaming but I guess you're saying he just meant inside the courtroom yes I believe that's correct okay thank you for clarifying sir could you please speak

your name I saw your name Adam Sal A.D.A.M. Sir how are you currently employed direct your attention to March 15, 2026 around B-38M where you want other amount for officers dispatched to Richland Farms in the county of Melton yes we're here we were is that within Dane County, Wisconsin you described sort of what you noticed when you first got to that area we first got there I noticed several cars had parked along the north side

of the road not a whole lot of people there definitely not as many should be with that those vehicles those are about I noticed a silver pickup truck in the driveway that the gentleman I didn't identify he was kind of engaging people that were attempting to get onto the property also was stopped did you ultimately identify that person as Jerry Bliser did Mr. Bliser make any statements due to your recall about what was going on or what problems were occurring I would ask him if anybody had done a capital on the property at the time and that he did not believe so but they were attempting to get onto the property at some point did you and other about our officers proceed onto the original property and when you got there

do you describe or what you observed what your attention was directed to when he drove up onto the property he had to go on into the gate I could hear a lot of people there were several groups of people approximately 50 or so to be more that were walking from the lower building that I observed most of them were in like a lot of them appeared to

be carrying dogs it almost appeared that there might be a second person kind of with them so it just doesn't look as well we also noticed several other doors and several other doors in the building that were people trying to really actually break into the buildings like notice the tools on their hands comars and the vendors containers and that sort as part of your record there did

you try to get people to stop essentially breaking in buildings or try to start demeaning people we did my partners and I did our slot cars you know when I was ready to stop they pretty much all continued past us not in that zone and then at that point we observed the two folks two males had the need but was attempting to break in one of the

buildings so we proceeded over to the where they were to defend them while you were there did you have contact with some of the you identified as named Sean I did during the course your contact with Mr. Sean did he make a view about having a before I be there feeding animals too did you also contact with a person you identified as Emily Anderson who's the president of Mr.

Sean I did could you describe what Ms. Anderson was wearing and what she was doing when you had contact with her she was holding a cell phone she had a little camera on her her hat her head she was wearing a white type type suit with English greenish colon need she had her cell phone in her hand and then when I was an agent with Will she was very in close proximity with people during

that as she was videotaping the phone was kind of swinging around which with all the chaos going on if you're then you know I don't know what people are going to do with they put chaos that might be struck with it at some point did you detain Ms. Anderson a place for animals my partner then yes in terms of this area was this area technically within the jurisdiction of the name of the sheriff's office yes ultimately while you were there that members were being the sheriff's office arrived and threw people over the crowd and the investigation again yes in terms of you that day were you equipped with body camera in terms of your body

and video it was would that be a fair and accurate representation with the camera thought during your activities that day your footage from that day at least oh yes thank you another question officer huh you mentioned in your contact with Mr. that he dated he had a illegal right there if you resume the order of the main county judge in which she found probable cause that animals will decide where she has her next personal harm direction problems same based upon your observation while you were at originally farmed in California the entire record operation and that's the right about happening in daylight I can't say for certain and I

don't know what I know my my shift and prior to that I would it's what about while you were there or while you were on duty while I was on duty it was in the daylight in any of the rescuers try to see on the foot upon observing law enforcement direction problems role multiple I guess I don't understand what you mean by the input several we asked

them to set up were they running away from the property or continuing to try to run through the major controls direction also speculation based on the evidence I'm concerned I based upon your observation here's the question I'm sorry were they trying to run away from the property together or were they continuing to try to rescue the individual section also speculation who was there I'm staffing it on

his observation right law I think that any question there's objection basically there's a form of characterization so as we recreate the health intersection we indicated you observed at least some of the rescuers running away from long force to observe them running away from the property or were they continuing to be at the property trying to rescue same attraction cultural speculation you can see any of the rescuers

run away and these original farm property ultimate I'm sorry to be able to do that and the other question is it within option and preparation for today is the hearing what did you do just with being all your advice will to you so for the from the company did you review your buying now I did not have you ever reviewed your own investigation for this case correct

no have you reviewed your prior report from the case no so fair to say that the main thing you were relying on at least some little things that were offered by someone else by the VA's office okay and how long were you on March 15th I couldn't tell you okay not only you said you were there until you shifted it do you know how you shifted it

2 30 I'm sorry 2 30 yeah I was about there until 2 30 okay and the alleged incident village burglary that you could test finding out what day did that occur let's look at the March 16th 16th 16th were they completed the same day that I don't know how much work the end of it okay I guess let me ask you had there been any sort of

debriefing within law enforcement where you learned other information about the extent of what happened that day search from discovery did you learn when the incident ended search from the problem just because the name time this is particularly relevant to my kind he's not alleged and direct and this witness was already said I knew he wasn't there for the entirety of it but I'm just exploring if he

had some kind of order when it isn't I'm not with that question I don't know about certain almost if you know you learn when the incident ended ever too important remarks did you know if it ended that same day no okay and when you were on scene some people were in the building or were trying to get into a building some people were outside of the building

yeah I'm sorry yes and some people were just standing outside of the building correct they were outside of the building yeah and some people weren't trying to get into a building probably not okay I'm sort of people probably yes okay or walking okay so walking standing not actively trying to get into a building correct and you saw some people who didn't have any tools in their hands

correct some people were simply there with their cell phones out couldn't possibly be so when I became yes so my heart could be gained okay I can touch out of that so other than that okay Jane I just double checked and actually we did get confirmation that we aren't able to live stream in there so they're considering that an extension of the courtroom and they now just

confirmed that they don't want us live streaming from in there well I'm glad that we checked I want to clarify right now that we were under the impression that it was okay you were told by the bailiff that it was okay to live stream yes I believe it's somebody I was looking at his badge it looks like he's from the Dane County Sheriff's Office so he was

double checking with somebody from the court initially he told me yes we could live stream from in there that's what Amy was told as well he saw that I was set up live streaming in there it didn't seem to be a problem but when I went to double check with him he went and asked and confirmed that we were not able to live stream from in there

all right well you know what we as the second that we found out that the no live stream applied to the overflow room to the general public we stopped the live stream and we left so it's good that we did that we're trying to do everything exactly correctly yes you were told that it was okay by a sheriff's officer we're in the overflow room for the general

public but we've confirmed now no the live stream is not allowed so we left immediately Tamara what are your thoughts regarding this development you know I don't know what to say what we heard so far is the prosecutor spoke first and he wanted to establish a particular police officer that was on the scene and and he established something called foundation who that officer was name the date

the conditions etc what it was that the officer saw and then one by one the various defense councils those are the attorneys that are representing the some of the 48 47 defendants they began to question that police officer that's what we just witnessed in this like 20 minutes that we were watching and if you notice the first question by Kristin shank was related to Judge Lanford and

that was immediately shut down by the prosecutor who objected so she spoke and she asked a question of the police officer the district attorney or prosecutor said objection the judge said sustained which means the police officer did not have to answer that question and so if that's going to be the pattern it will be very very difficult to get evidence that works in our favor it might

not be the pattern we only saw 15 20 minutes of that but that was the first question that was immediately shut down so that's concerning but then after Kristin shank another defense attorney got to question the police officer and then the remainder of the defense attorneys would be questioning that particular police officer who was on the scene who claims that he had his camera going but that

he did not review the footage for today so yeah and then just in terms of what just happened the sheriff representative from the sheriff's office live streams are yeah yeah our reporter said we're going to go down there and live stream told the law enforcement officer they said that's fine he was aware he saw us then you heard the judge at the last second say no live

streaming it was unclear whether it was for the inside the court or outside in the room that for the general public I immediately told Jamie to go check and so then he checked is it the same person who you go to officially who checked and what did he say then so he went he walked away for a few minutes he was calling somebody out did he go

into the courtroom or did he no he looked like he was calling somebody on a headset that he had so he was calling up to somebody in the courtroom and he came back and reported to me that he got confirmation that they were considering that overflow room and extension of the courtroom and so we could not stream there okay well the second we heard that I just

want to say for the record we shut down the live stream and left so he was unsure as well he believed us to be able to live stream from in there until he went and double checked and got confirmation all right well I think at some point if you can try to get that person see his name yeah get his name I would just just leave your

camera where it is and go get his name and come back so you get his name and title so that you know in good faith we were told it was okay and so I think it's important that you get oh here you have to hear just a second okay great thank you so you know this is live coverage of a very fast evolving situation and we always

do everything we can to adhere absolutely to the judges instructions it was a confusing situation because of the overflow room for the general public and what our reporter was told by the officer who was there guiding people into the overflow room but like I said the second we found out that it was not something that we were allowed to live stream we stopped the live stream and

left that overflow room so I don't know if you have any thoughts on that Tamara as an attorney what do you have to say things evolve and sometimes you do get information from one person who is in apparent authority and you follow that information and then that information changes on you and then you follow the new information so I think you did the best possible job you

could and so did Jamie and I'm happy that she's getting his name now yeah I think it is important to get his name so that you know we're in the clear because we should be in the clear because we operated in good faith the entire time so you know let's try to put all of this in perspective Dane County has become like the center of this issue

however it has moved to New York with Marshall Bio resources and there was recently a 14-day march across New York state from Albany to the headquarters of Marshall Bio resources to protest that facility which is the largest facility in the United States with many thousands of animals this is a look at the 14-day march to end animal experimentation and Marshall Bio resources and we invite Marshall and

Ridgeland on any time so Jamie you've been on YouTube and their website yeah so I just talked to it was deputy got at with the Dane County Sheriff's Office he got a confirmation from the clerk of courts so he just came back out again to confirm with us that he had gone and confirmed with the clerk of courts that unless we had prior approval we weren't able

to live stream from in there I did let him know that Amy Van Artsen had been coordinating with them and that we believed her to have gotten prior approval but without her being here to help mediate I can't say but this is the same person who initially told you it was okay to live stream from the overflow room yes this is deputy got at with the Dane

County Sheriff's Office I've told him a few times now initially when we were upstairs I asked him am I allowed to potentially live stream from inside the courtroom and he said no we're allowing that downstairs in the overflow room and so then I came down here nobody seems to have a problem with it there are like people who appear to be with the sheriff's office all around

so it seemed like it was okay but when I went to double check he said he appreciated us double checking and then went and confirmed with the clerk of courts that we could not live stream from in there okay all right and we immediately stopped the live stream and exited so that's the end of that story thank you Jamie again yes as Tamara the attorney that we

have here advising us and I'm so glad you're here today giving us commentary she said situations change and it's a fluid situation so there you go now let me ask you as we I think wrap up our coverage what is what are your thoughts Jamie about the mood of this court of this entire court experience today well it's interesting I guess it'll be interesting to see how

it unfolds throughout the rest of the day since we only got to see a little bit of it so far there's definitely a lot of supporters here on the sides of the rescuers so it's great to see all that support even locals from